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”Joining the Dots” focuses on the many challenges facing education and how different approaches and innovations are required to meet these challenges, which, due to their interconnectedness, are also challenges facing all sorts of educational establishments, educators, parents and families, businesses and the economy as a whole. Co-hosts Matt Jessop and Al Kingsley, have discussions with innovative educators, business leaders, policymakers, and other stakeholders and guests.
Episodes

Apr 18, 2026
Apr 18, 2026
42 min
Navigating Education's Evolving Landscape: Insights from Andy Kent on Change and Data
In this episode, Matt Jessop and Al Kingsley delve into the profound shifts in education over the past 27 years, especially accelerated post-COVID, and how data and AI are shaping the future of teaching and school management. Join us for an enlightening discussion with EdTech entrepreneur and all round nice guy, Andy Kent, as we explore the challenges, opportunities, and innovations transforming education today.
Key Topics:
- Major changes in education since Angel Solutions was founded in 1999
- The impact of COVID-19 on school operations and mindset shifts
- Challenges with parental complaints, SEND, recruitment, and retention
- The role of hybrid learning and flexible practices post-pandemic
- How data analysis and dashboards are evolving, including real-time insights
- The influence of AI in reducing workload and improving decision-making
- The potential and risks of AI tools like ChatGPT and Google Gemini in education
- The functionality and benefits of Andy Kent's AI tool, Tilde
- Strategies for fostering collaboration and flexible work culture in schools and organizations
- The importance of human judgment and context in leveraging data and AI effectively
This episode offers valuable insights into how education professionals can leverage data, AI, and adaptable practices to navigate ongoing challenges and build resilient, innovative learning environments.

Feb 27, 2026
Feb 27, 2026
38 min
In this conversation, Caroline Keep discusses her work in AI, education, and community engagement with Al Kingsley and Matt Jessop. She emphasises the importance of accessibility and neurodiversity in educational technology. She shares insights from her research on fuzzy logic and the challenges of AI, as well as her role in shaping policies in Liverpool. Caroline also reflects on her experiences in teaching and community outreach, highlighting the need for more inclusive practices in education.
Takeaways
- Caroline Keep is a multifaceted educator and advocate for change.
- Her PhD work focuses on mapping out school systems using AI.
- Fuzzy logic allows for nuanced data interpretation in education.
- AI has limitations that educators must be aware of.
- Community engagement is crucial for effective policy-making.
- Caroline's work in Liverpool emphasises accessibility for all.
- MakerFest has reached thousands, promoting tech education.
- Neurodiversity should be represented in teaching roles.
- The tech industry often overlooks SEND needs in design.
- Shared responsibility in education is essential for success.
00:32 AI and the Drive Framework
03:28 Fuzzy Logic and Data Interpretation
07:08 Technical Challenges in AI
14:40 Community Engagement in Liverpool
18:57 Education and Outreach Initiatives
22:14 The Maker Movement and MakerFest
22:50 The Importance of Inclusivity in Tech
25:16 Neurodiversity and Education
30:32 Leading by Example in Neurodiversity
36:13 Shared Responsibility in Education

Feb 13, 2026
Feb 13, 2026
41 min
In this episode, Al Kingsley and Matt Jessop chat with Dr Nicole Ponsford and discuss the critical role of inclusive data in education, emphasising the need for schools to listen to the voices of all stakeholders.
She highlights the disconnect between the data collected and the real experiences of students and staff, advocating for a more nuanced approach to data interpretation. Nic also explores the impact of AI on education, the importance of social capital, and the ethical implications of data use. Her mission is to empower school leaders to create safe and inclusive environments for all students.
Episode Takeaways
- Data in schools tells us what has happened, not why.
- Listening to unheard voices is crucial for inclusion.
- Inclusion should be a lens, not a bolt-on.
- Diversity enhances decision-making in education.
- Measuring belonging is essential for student well-being.
- Data should humanise individuals, not categorise them.
- An inclusion champion is needed in every classroom.
- Data must inform, not dictate, school improvement.
- Granular data analysis reveals deeper insights.
- Social capital is vital for building trust in schools.
Remember, "Data doesn't tell us why it's happened." - also check out the amazing Global Equality Collective from here.

Dec 5, 2025
Dec 5, 2025
34 min
In this conversation, Matt Jessop and Al Kingsley meet Mathieu Skulason and Mark Agerwala from Evolytes and explore the significance of improving student attitudes towards learning and how fostering happiness in learners can lead to better educational outcomes. The speakers emphasise the role of EvoLights in this process.
Takeaways
- Improving student attitudes leads to better learning outcomes.
- Happy learners are more motivated to learn.
- EvoLights focuses on enhancing student experiences.
- Positive attitudes can transform educational environments.
- Engagement is key to effective learning.
- Fostering happiness in education is essential.
- Student well-being impacts academic success.
- Creating a supportive learning atmosphere is crucial.
- Innovative approaches can improve student attitudes.
- EvoLights aims to revolutionise learning experiences.

Nov 1, 2025
Nov 1, 2025
38 min
In this engaging conversation, Bukky Yusuf discusses with Matt Jessop and Al Kingsley her mission to empower leaders and young people in education, addressing the significant challenges they face today. She emphasises the importance of creating child-centred schools, the need for flexibility in education, and the role of leadership in fostering a positive environment. The discussion also delves into the impact of AI in education, the ethical considerations surrounding it, and the necessity of prioritising well-being for educators. Bukky's passion for education shines through as she shares insights and strategies for making a meaningful difference in the lives of students and teachers alike.
Takeaways
- Dedicated to helping leaders smash glass ceilings.
- The current global climate presents significant challenges for young people.
- A good school prioritises child-centred approaches.
- Educators are facing increasing pressures and challenges in their roles.
- Leadership in education requires flexibility and understanding.
- AI presents both opportunities and challenges in the educational landscape.
- Ethics and bias in AI are critical topics for educators to address.
- Well-being strategies are essential for educators to thrive.
- Creating a supportive school environment is vital for student success.
- Passion in education can lead to transformative experiences for students.
00:00 Introduction to Bukky
02:22 Challenges Facing Young People Today
05:35 Defining a Good School
08:21 The Role of Alternative Provision in Education
11:32 Leadership in Education: Shifts and Challenges
14:26 The Importance of Flexibility in Leadership
17:25 Navigating Divisive Issues in Education
19:21 Ethics in AI Education
22:31 Navigating AI in Schools
25:52 The Impact of Social Media and AI
29:40 Addressing Bias and Discrimination in AI
34:45 Well-being Strategies for Educators

Oct 23, 2025
Oct 23, 2025
41 min
In this conversation, Matt Jessop and Al Kingsley are joined by Kieran Maguire, Lecturer in football finance at University of Liverpool, author of ‘The Price of Football’ and podcast host of ‘The Price of Football’ with comedian Kevin Day and BBC money presenter Guy Kilty.
They discuss the multifaceted role of football in society, particularly its impact on education, community engagement, and financial sustainability. Kieran emphasises the importance of football clubs as community pillars and explores the economic realities of player wages. The discussion also touches on the social responsibilities of football, the need for respect towards referees, and the unique identity that football provides to its fans.
Key Takeways
- Football clubs play a significant role in community engagement.
- Education can be enhanced through football-related initiatives.
- Financial sustainability is a major concern for many clubs.
- Football serves as a central pillar in many people's lives.
- Player wages vary significantly across different leagues.
- Football can be a powerful tool for social good.
- Respect for referees is a growing issue in football.
- Football creates lasting memories and shared experiences.
- The economics of football reflect broader societal trends.
- Football's identity is intertwined with community and heritage.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Football Finance and Community Engagement
05:02 The Role of Football in Education and Community
08:57 Football as a Pathway to Careers and Skills
12:53 The Resilience of Football Clubs
17:10 Football's Role in Identity and Community
22:36 The Economics of Football Wages
27:16 Football as a Quasi-Religion and Social Impact
31:12 Respect for Referees and Role Models in Football
35:47 Predictions for the Future of Football

Oct 12, 2025
Oct 12, 2025
26 min
In this conversation, Liina Vahtras, the managing director of Estonia's e-residency program, discusses the evolution and impact of the program on entrepreneurship and the digital economy in Estonia with Al Kingsley and Matt Jessop. She highlights the innovations being implemented to streamline the application process, the unique digital ecosystem of Estonia, and the importance of aligning education with the needs of a digital economy. The conversation also touches on the role of AI in education, data ownership, and the challenges faced by young Estonians entering the workforce.
Some of our key takeaways
- Estonia has over 130,000 e-residents from 185 countries.
- E-residents have created close to 38,000 companies in Estonia.
- The e-residency program aims to cut application time from two months to two weeks.
- Estonia's digital ecosystem is unique due to its fully digitized government services.
- The country has no corporate tax on reinvested profits, attracting startups.
- Education in Estonia is adapting to include AI and digital skills.
- Parents can choose additional courses for their children, including coding and robotics.
- Trust in technology is built on data ownership and transparency.
- Estonia's small size allows for quick decision-making and innovation.
- The e-residency program encourages international collaboration and learning.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Estonia's E-Residency Program
00:56 Innovations in E-Residency and Future Developments
02:31 The Impact of E-Residency on Startups and Entrepreneurs
05:33 The Unique Estonian Digital Ecosystem
09:57 Aligning Education with a Digital Economy
13:00 The Role of AI in Education and Digital Skills
18:45 Data Ownership and Trust in Technology
22:00 Challenges and Opportunities for Young Estonians
27:02 Final Thoughts and Resources for Interested Entrepreneurs

Oct 5, 2025
Oct 5, 2025
32 min
In this conversation, Al Kingsley, Matt Jessop and Tara Steele discuss the urgent need for safeguards in the use of AI by children. They explore the dangers of AI companions, the role of AI in education, and the importance of regulation and governance.
The conversation emphasises the necessity of educating children about AI, the risks of emerging technologies, and the challenges of keeping up with rapid AI development. They also highlight the need for regulatory safeguards and how individuals can get involved with the Safe AI for Children Alliance.
Our key takeaways
- Children need to be taught how to use AI ethically and safely.
- AI companions pose significant risks to children under 18.
- The dangers of AI include misinformation and harmful advice.
- Education on AI should be a priority in schools.
- Cyberbullying is exacerbated by AI technologies.
- Small language models may offer safer alternatives in education.
- Regulation of AI is crucial for child safety.
- Companies often delay implementing safeguards until after harm occurs.
- Long-term thinking is necessary for AI governance.
- Getting involved with organisations like Safe AI for Children Alliance is important.
Find out more about "The Safe AI For Children Alliance" from here www.safeaiforchildren.org
